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		<title>By: CAN</title>
		<link>http://forgodsfame.org/2007/11/26/would-you-believe/#comment-5100</link>
		<dc:creator>CAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some past televangelists and present ones come to mind as what they say seems to not be based on what they really believe, but to motivate people to support their "ministry" to keep the lights on and pay for that new Mercedes, and giant building.

Also in many cases, it is just plain bad theology, but maybe it’s easier to pronounce this “bad but good sounding theology” to the masses when it means more money might come in.

(II Tim 4:3 - NAS) "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,"

There I go again seeing the cloud in the silver lining. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some past televangelists and present ones come to mind as what they say seems to not be based on what they really believe, but to motivate people to support their &#8220;ministry&#8221; to keep the lights on and pay for that new Mercedes, and giant building.</p>
<p>Also in many cases, it is just plain bad theology, but maybe it’s easier to pronounce this “bad but good sounding theology” to the masses when it means more money might come in.</p>
<p>(II Tim 4:3 - NAS) &#8220;For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,&#8221;</p>
<p>There I go again seeing the cloud in the silver lining. <img src='http://forgodsfame.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Williams</title>
		<link>http://forgodsfame.org/2007/11/26/would-you-believe/#comment-5098</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point, Dan...

&lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=john%206&#038;src=esv.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;John 6:35-40&lt;/a&gt; (emphasis mine):

&lt;blockquote&gt;Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; &lt;strong&gt;whoever&lt;/strong&gt; comes to me shall not hunger, and &lt;strong&gt;whoever&lt;/strong&gt; believes in me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. &lt;strong&gt;All&lt;/strong&gt; that the Father gives me will come to me, and &lt;strong&gt;whoever&lt;/strong&gt; comes to me I will never cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that &lt;strong&gt;everyone&lt;/strong&gt; who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

... followed mere verses later in v. 44: "&lt;strong&gt;No one&lt;/strong&gt; can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him."

... followed by vv. 47, 51:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Truly, truly, I say to you, &lt;strong&gt;whoever&lt;/strong&gt; believes has eternal life... I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If &lt;strong&gt;anyone&lt;/strong&gt; eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

... then a bunch of "whoevers" in vv. 52-58...

... and finally in vv 63-65:

&lt;blockquote&gt;It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. But there are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) And he said, “This is why I told you that &lt;strong&gt;no one&lt;/strong&gt; can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jesus certainly presents God's sovereignty and man's responsibility as part of a single, coherent package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point, Dan&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=john%206&#038;src=esv.org" rel="nofollow">John 6:35-40</a> (emphasis mine):</p>
<blockquote><p>Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; <strong>whoever</strong> comes to me shall not hunger, and <strong>whoever</strong> believes in me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. <strong>All</strong> that the Father gives me will come to me, and <strong>whoever</strong> comes to me I will never cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that <strong>everyone</strong> who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230; followed mere verses later in v. 44: &#8220;<strong>No one</strong> can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; followed by vv. 47, 51:</p>
<blockquote><p>Truly, truly, I say to you, <strong>whoever</strong> believes has eternal life&#8230; I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If <strong>anyone</strong> eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230; then a bunch of &#8220;whoevers&#8221; in vv. 52-58&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; and finally in vv 63-65:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. But there are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) And he said, “This is why I told you that <strong>no one</strong> can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Jesus certainly presents God&#8217;s sovereignty and man&#8217;s responsibility as part of a single, coherent package.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Miller</title>
		<link>http://forgodsfame.org/2007/11/26/would-you-believe/#comment-5097</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found the approach of Jesus in John 6 to be very helpful.  Notice how Jesus gives the responsibility to respond to the people, yet clearly points out their inability to respond.  Jesus strikes the perfect balance in His humanity of God's role and our ability.  Makes perfect sense - the Son of God being the perfect example of how to live out our theology!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found the approach of Jesus in John 6 to be very helpful.  Notice how Jesus gives the responsibility to respond to the people, yet clearly points out their inability to respond.  Jesus strikes the perfect balance in His humanity of God&#8217;s role and our ability.  Makes perfect sense - the Son of God being the perfect example of how to live out our theology!</p>
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